Precision 5857 build

[GabeRossi]

I am currently in the process Building my B5 A4. I am going with a Precision Turbo 5857 DBB, my power goal is 400FWHP+ and 500HP when I build the head. Running an AEB 1.8 motor... Usp Motorsports is going to be supplying the parts, install, and software upgrade , Usp has never let me down!! What a great shop! I'm going to see how long my Southbend STG3 clutch will last, then probably I will get an FX850 or a FX400. The exterior of the car will pretty much be the same minus the Halo Headlight's I have on there now(decided on Black Depo One piece) and the Brakes(S4 brake upgrade) I will be updating this as everything goes along. Thanks for looking!!

**UPDATED: 12-17-10**

Parts....

Engine:

AEB 1.8L
JE Pistons
Integrated Engineering Rods
ARP Head Stud Kit
Main Bearing Set
Rod Bearing Set
Thrust Bearing
Head Gasket
Crankcase Gasket Set
RS4 Motor Mounts
034 Transmission mounts
APR Snub

Turbo/ECU:

Pag Parts Turbo kit/exhaust manifold
Precision 5857 Dual Ball Bearing Turbocharger
Oil feed/return lines
Eurodyne Maestro 7

Tial BOV
Tial MVS Wastegate
Precision 600hp core w/ custom Usp Motorsports Inter-cooler Piping
MAF/Harness

Fueling:830cc Injectors
044 fuel pump

Exhaust:
Custom Usp Motorsports 3in Down-Pipe/3in Down-Pipe back exhaust
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I ordered Raxle's to help me stop breaking axles


MORE TO COME SOON!!

Here is the car that is undergoing the build.

[Mike@Ringer-Racing.com]

Nice build.

FX450?

If you go FX850 you will want to go with the Super Single which is what Dan and David both bought from me. The FX850 twin disk just hits way too hard for the 01A transmission, it should only be used when running a 01E transmission.

[GabeRossi]

I will be going with the FX400 when my southbend wears down...I can change it in school for no labor cost just no car for half a day, it would save me some money for the time being..plus the motor needs to be broken in so the southbend will hold for now, plus theres alot of meat still on it.

[Mike@Ringer-Racing.com]

Do you mean the Clutch Masters FX400?

[DaveD]

Looks great! I'll be following this for sure

[GabeRossi]

Do you mean the Clutch Masters FX400?

yes i mean FX400** I was in a rush to get out the door when I typed that sorry

[GabeRossi]

more pics from Usp's facebook page..click for more>>http://www.facebook.com/...d=1127562...uspmotorsports

[GabeRossi]

update

[Mike@Ringer-Racing.com]

yes i mean FX400** I was in a rush to get out the door when I typed that sorry

I figured you did.

They do actually offer a kit that some people have called the FX450, it has Feramic material on the 6 puck instead of Ceramic and is only offered as a custom order.

[GabeRossi]

gotchya...would you recommend the Feramic or Ceramic for street use and some track use?

[Mike@Ringer-Racing.com]

Ceramic is perfectly fine for the A4. If you want something with more bite then you could always go with the FX850 Super Single ceramic 6 puck setup like a few other B6/B5 1.8t owners are running. It has a stiffer pedal that gives more feed back for those that like to track the car. You can ask Dan about his FX850SS, he seems to love it. Nice track clutch that is still easy to use on the street.

[GabeRossi]

hmm i need to look into that and send dan a PM

[GabeRossi]

alright...got the motor going in today, also I was told they need to make a hole in my valve cover and put a breather hose on it bc the AEB's do not have a breather hose on their valve cover which is essential for boosted applications. I also need to get some 034 density line trans mounts bc my new oem trans mounts are already broken from my last setup. I was told next week my car should be up and running =)

[GabeRossi]

[Dan[FN]5857]

ohhh yyyyyeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[03b6avant]

build looks great

[GabeRossi]

thanks

[Dan[FN]5857]

hmmmm.... somehow I never noticed this before...... but it definitely needs more ported compressor housing...... looks so much cooler



I'm curious to if it'll surge without one. I've heard of 57trim garretts having that problem. since the PTEs have a different wheel, I wonder if it'll have the same problem. I hope not, that would be annoying.

[mbgt72]

I like shiny things. . . and I like this build a lot. It's looking good guys, keep it up. I'll be interested in seeing the power it finally puts down, but still personally hesitant about it all being in the front wheels haha

[GabeRossi]

With the non ported housing I will see quicker spool up time, I agree the ported housing looks cool as hell but if usp says I don't need it then I'm willing to trust their decision...yea I know people bash me about being FWD but this is what I got and I do plan on getting a quattro shell and trans then swapping over the motor I have now into the quattro. I'm a college student in the automotive field and I think that would be a cool, pretty straight forward project to accomplish.

[Dan[FN]5857]

The only reason I got the ported housing is because I was afraid of surge. I'm curious to see how much better it spools.

[GabeRossi]

The only reason I got the ported housing is because I was afraid of surge. I'm curious to see how much better it spools.

true, I hope it won't surge too bad...but the spool should be a bit better than the ported housing, I don't think by much though...

[GabeRossi]

she runs

[mbgt72]

^ Congrats. Now get to posting pics and vids!

[un1ko]

Nice build! I have a quick question did you route the pcv pipe to your downpipe? I never seen that before. Let me know how it works. Congrats in having you car done, show some pics!

[GabeRossi]

i'll post up videos once the intercooler and exhaust are fab'd up..the pcv pipe was just hanging there in the picture, had to drill a hole in the valve cover for a breather port..

[un1ko]

i'll post up videos once the intercooler and exhaust are fab'd up..the pcv pipe was just hanging there in the picture, had to drill a hole in the valve cover for a breather port..

Why don't you just buy a AWM valve cover? It has a port already. That's what I did. I got it on eBay for like $50.

[GabeRossi]

I like my bolt down coilpacks and plus it took 2 mins to drill and tap that hole so I could save $50

[B6JoeS4]

Looks like a clean solid build. I would do away with that motor driven fan and install and electric one. It would make quite a big difference i think

[GabeRossi]

I agree^^ I will be getting an electric fan when I get the funds...but the head needs to be built before I can think about buying anything else

[un1ko]

I like my bolt down coilpacks and plus it took 2 mins to drill and tap that hole so I could save $50

Hmmm. I have to check because I like to bolt down my coilpacks too, plus I bought the coilpacks for AWM that bolt down. Checkout my valve cover as you can see there's 2 holes to bolt down each coilpack, but I have to double check and make sure I won't have any problems. So hows the car riding?

[GabeRossi]

that's for the coil pack's with the hold down clamp not the actual bolt down coil pack that comes with the AEB...this is your coil pack


this is the AEB coil pack


It runs and ran for a few mins...The shop started it up just to see if it would, exhaust is being fab'd up as well as the intercooler piping, then its getting a base file tune...

[un1ko]

No, these are the ones I got. There are better than OEM



http://www.urotuning.com/shop/igniti...ion-p-213.html

[GabeRossi]

true that

[a4spoolin]

I can't wait to see this thing done. Tell that shop to get welding. So close

[Mike@Ringer-Racing.com]

that's for the coil pack's with the hold down clamp not the actual bolt down coil pack that comes with the AEB...this is your coil pack

Incorrect. All of the A4 1.8t valve covers have bolt holes so that any of the coils can be bolted down using the holes in the coil pack body. Doesn't matter if it is a AEB, ATW, AWM or AMB. I have used nearly all of those different valve covers to bolt down my ATW Hitachi coils. Plent of AEB owners have converted to ATW coils and same with the AWM and AMB owners.

The bolt down kit from ECS is just to hold down the push down coils that come stock on the AWM/AMB.

Only cover that I know of that does not have the holes is the flat valve cover off a Euro transverse 1.8 which only uses the push down coils and has the oil cap location in the back when put on a longitude 1.8t.

This is the shaved/flat VC.



Pictures of a AEB to ATW 4 bolt hitachi coils on a AEB VC.


The coversion DIY write up by Jeff.

Picture of my stock Hitachi coils on a AWM push down coil cover using the stock bolt holes.

[GabeRossi]

thx for clearing that up for me I always thought different, now I know lol

[GabeRossi]

Sleeper status..



you can see how bad the humidity is down here...look at the rust starting to form on the manifold

[GabeRossi]

having trouble with the transmission still...got new linkage,bushings, and shifter in there but it feels like it doesn't have the click that it should when you put it into gear, getting the software put on the car so its drivable and easier to diagnose the problem

[Mike@Ringer-Racing.com]

That is normal if that manifold has any iron in it. You could always have the manifold coated.