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    Default My 2001 A4 Big Turbo Build Thread

    I've been meaning to make a thread on here for a long and just haven't gotten time. Well I got a 2001 A4 1.8t quatro manual. I picked it up after i totaled my Mazda. I couldn't decide whether to get an a4 or a s4, prob should have gotten the s but oh well. picked the car to be my daily and was planning on doing just mild bolt on to keep it reliable and some what quick. i started off with a chip on stock turbo with a 3" catless test pipe. these mods made the car much more fun to drive, it was a huge dog before this. well after have some more power and about 100k on the clock, the stock clutch was starting to slip. Knowing I would be adding some more power at some point I wanted a clutch that would be able to handle it. I talked to sponsor Mike Hood at Ringer Racing and he directed me to the best clutch for my goals. I planned on making about 300whp so he suggest the Clutchmasters 240mm fx300 kit. Well ordered that baby up installed it when it came in. After about two weeks of driving, the flywheel bolts somehow loosened up. I thought I spun bearing, it vibrated so hard the knock sensors detected stuff and starting making my car misfire haha. Well after pulling the motor out and finding the flywheel loose, I got some new bolts and put everything back together. Next i had to tackle the suspension as some of my control arm bushings were cracking and the car was just loose. So I ordered a full front control and tie rod kit from ECS and picked up a set of ST Coilovers. Went to buddy's shop at BMW and spent a long ass night fighting years and years of corrosion but we finally got everything installed. Spring of '11 came piCked up a set of ASA wheels with Falken fk452's with great tread left for a great price. Come June of'11 my stock turbo just couldn't take the 23lbs of boost anymore and started whining like a girl. So I contacted Doug at Frankenturbo and ordered a turbo, mani, and inlet pipe from him. Now this turbo is a hell of deal. Its got a great price tag and it held up great for the 5000 miles I put on it. The only issue I had was that my tune was too aggressive causing me to overboost. I didn't really feel like paying $1000 for a custom tune, so I bought a Hallmann Pro boost controller and set it to 24lbs. This turbo hit full boost by 2800rpm and held it till past 5500 where it went to about 20 at redline. I'm sure alot had to do with my crappy stock SMIC. But that was fun, nothing beats the torque that thing created.

    Well that brings us till about a month ago when I went to a bunch of maintenance to the car. I had a leaking rear main, coolant flange and some other small things that I was gonna fix while I had the motor out. I decided to a timing belt even though I wasn't due. Ordered everything, put the motor back in to find some nasty valve ticking. Turns out my brand new timing belt tensioner failed and well I lost cylinders 1 and 3's valves. At this point I wasn't sure what I wanted to do. I was tempted to just buy a new car and part the Audi out, but I had invested so much money into with mods and maintenance that I couldn't stand the thought of just ditching it. I mean yes I could have just thrown a head on the motor, but my previous compression and leak down tests have shown that I was losing compression through the rings so doing the bottom end was needed as well. after a few weeks of thinking, test driving cars, I found a fully built 2.0l stroker motor for sale on AZ from a 2000. Being that this motor was from a 2000, it has a different block than I do. Luckily for me the previous owner was using my wire harness on his 2000 for tuning capabilities, so a lot of that would be needed to make the swap work was already done. After doing more research it looked like all I need for this swap was coolant hoses from a 2000, transfer my AWM knock sensors into the 2000 motor, everything else was either already done by the previous owner or the same between both engines.

    Well Saturday I pulled the trigger and drove up to Massachusetts and bought the motor. The entire trip I was doing more research about the swap and everybody kept saying that it was wasn't, and most previous triers bailed. So during that 5 hour trip back all I kept thinking was what did I just get myself into haha. After a good night sleep Saturday I got up and pulled the motor out of my car. Set up the new motor on the engine stand and started organizing everything and figure out whats next.

    I then contacted Mike Hood at Ringer Racing again for insight for turbos and everything else. I decided that i wanted to make about 450 to 500whp and that the Precision 5857 turbo would get me to those goals. Well I was right it would, but after doing some more research I ended up bailing on that one. I was thinking of getting a Garrett and even a Forced Performance modded Garrett, but I talked to some people and they suggested a Comp Turbo. One of the guys I talk to I respect a lot and he's all Garrett, and Precision, and Comp on his 1.8t and is just nuts about the Comp. Since everybody and their mother runs Garretts I decided that I'd go with the Comp. I know alot of big horsepower supra guys run them so i know they legit, and their triple ball bearing technology intrigued me. So I contacted Mike and had him order me a Comp CT-4 5857, along with the necessary oil and coolant lines for the PSI Concepts T3 bottom mount manifold. I also ordered a set Mike's custom 1000cc EV14 Bosch injectors to take care of the fueling. Mike is getting me a 3" downpipe made that will taper to 2.5" to mate to my Neuspeed exhaust. I still need to order my Warlboro 255 intank fuel pump and some other little things to get the engine to work with my car.

    Tuning will be taken care of through Maestro Tuning Suite 7 so I can have full adjustiblity when I decide to change some hardware or make different tunes for the different seasons we have here. I really like the fact that this software allows me to fine tune anything and everything is in my hands. My friend just blew a rod through his EvoX because his tuner went a little too aggressive. Maestro comes with a base file that I will then be able to tweak and get the most out of my set up. Once I get it running well, I'd like to throw it on the dyno fine tune it and see what kinda numbers it puts down.

    Engine Build Specs:
    Eurospec Sport 2.0L Complete Forged Stroker Kit w/Big Bore Gasket
    Eurospec Sport 4340 Billet 92.8mm Crankshaft
    Eurospec Sport Forged Connecting Rods
    Eurospec Sport Head bolt Set
    8.5:1 JE Pistons
    Raceware Main Bolts
    ARP Rod Bolts
    034 Motorsports Coated Rod and Main Bearings
    Rebuilt/cleaned and intake ported ATW Head
    Autotech Intake Cam
    Autotech Adjustable Cam gear
    Supertech 20 Valve Spring Set w/Titanium Retainers
    Supertech Iconnel Exhaust and Intake Valves (single groove)
    AEB Intake Manifold

    Fueling:
    Ringer Racing 1000cc Injectors
    Warlboro 255 in tank pump
    Aeromotive A1000 fuel pressure regulator
    034 Motorsports Big Fuel Rail

    Turbo/Exhaust
    Comp Turbo CT4-5858 Billet Triplex .82 a/r
    PSI Concepts T3 Mani
    PSI Concepts 3"-2.5" dp with wastegate rerouted
    Tial 38mm External Wastegate
    Neuspeed d/p back

    Tuning:
    Maestro Tuning 7
    B6 S4 MAF

    Drivetrain:
    034 Motorsports Track Density Engine and Trans Mounts
    Apikol Snub Mount
    Clutchmasters 240mm FX300
    JHM Trio Short Shift Kit

    Suspension:
    St Coilovers
    more coming

    Wheels/Brakes
    17" ASA with Falken fk452
    Stock 15" Conti Extreme Winter Contacts
    Stock Brakes...see how long they last haha
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    vehicle:


    engine sitting in transport:


    clutch:


    adjustable cam:


    very clean head:


    more pics to come as i recieve parts
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    what motor?

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    Damn dude, this thing is going to be awesome. I got a ride in Clints old A4 when he had his built 2.0 and GT35r and that thing was awesome, can't wait to see yours!


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    If you haven't bought your Aeromotive regulator yet, I can hook you up with my Fuel Lab regulator set up with some stainless hose and fittings for a good deal.

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    I have one question -

    Why are you spending all this money on the car and only putting ST coils on it? Im not bashing your work but it just seems like your spending a ton of dough on the car, you should keep going with that idea and get some Ohlins or some other great suspension.....

    Otherwise looks awesome! Cant wait to see the end result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extremesport3 View Post
    I have one question -

    Why are you spending all this money on the car and only putting ST coils on it? Im not bashing your work but it just seems like your spending a ton of dough on the car, you should keep going with that idea and get some Ohlins or some other great suspension.....

    Otherwise looks awesome! Cant wait to see the end result.
    From the pics, the ST's are already on the car.

    Looks good. Pretty similar to my build. Curious how well the FX300 will hold up.

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    not sure how well that FX300 is gonna do. Maby swap that out before you do complete install.

    "The only issue I had was that my tune was too aggressive causing me to overboost" that's funny........wasnt your tune! it was the way Slappy Dunbar aka Doug setup those Franken Turbos. THere is no exact tune for them. Was a good selling point, but the only solution is custom tune and/or MBC.

    That Comp Turbo is NICE!......your like the 3rd or 4th person i know planning on running one.
    Have you spoke with Dan Shank on AZ? He runns thta setup.

    Your car when tuned right is gonna be sick! kinda JELLY right now, should have built my motor to 2.0 and Bigger turbo

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03b6avant View Post
    what motor?
    its a 2000 atw engine with the head ported to match an aeb intake mani. the block is an 058 block which is different than our 06a/b so i gotta order all new coolant lines, change the pinning of the crank sensor on my ecu lines and some other little stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Extremesport3 View Post
    I have one question -

    Why are you spending all this money on the car and only putting ST coils on it? Im not bashing your work but it just seems like your spending a ton of dough on the car, you should keep going with that idea and get some Ohlins or some other great suspension.....

    Otherwise looks awesome! Cant wait to see the end result.
    the car never intended to get the treatment that it is, i was gonna get as close to 300whp and be done. it was and will be my daily so i don't want any crazy type of suspension. also i never intend of bringing this car on a road car, its just too nose heavy and would never do well. i do plan on installing sway bars at some point to help with the weekend cruises and rfr rallies i go on. ill never drive the car near its limits so i think the st's will be fine. i dont mind the ride they provide for dailying and that's really the only part that matters to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by 03b6avant View Post
    not sure how well that FX300 is gonna do. Maby swap that out before you do complete install.

    "The only issue I had was that my tune was too aggressive causing me to overboost" that's funny........wasnt your tune! it was the way Slappy Dunbar aka Doug setup those Franken Turbos. THere is no exact tune for them. Was a good selling point, but the only solution is custom tune and/or MBC.

    That Comp Turbo is NICE!......your like the 3rd or 4th person i know planning on running one.
    Have you spoke with Dan Shank on AZ? He runns thta setup.

    Your car when tuned right is gonna be sick! kinda JELLY right now, should have built my motor to 2.0 and Bigger turbo
    i was thinking of switching the clutch to a fx400 but my clutch is still pretty new and will hopefully be able to hand the power for a little bit. when it does start slipping ill get something much stronger and just drop the trans one night after work.

    but yea i did talk to dan and he seems extremely happy with his 6262. he hits full fairly quickly and since im 2.0 and a slightly smaller turbo im hoping to hit it much sooner. wasnt he a member on here? we need to get him back.

    thanks guys appreciate all the positive feedback. btw this is an ea exclusive build thread
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    well did some work this weekend. Converted all the coolant in my car to the fit the 058 block. Also deleted EGR, SAI, PCV systems. The bay will look alot cleaner with out all those check valaves and vacuum lines.
    Also resealed the oil pan. Pic of the 2l crankshaft. Its real clean in there:

    PSI Concepts T3 Manifold and Tial 38mm wastegate came in the other day. Picked these up barely used even though the mani looks really aged:

    Wrinkle Coated my valve cover. Used Vht Wrinkle Plus came out suprising well. Lets see how well it holds up. If it doesn't hold then I'll get it powdercoated. Might get my stock one done and switch it over eventually:

    Hopefully this bad guy will keep the IAT's incheck for winter then in the spring I'll upgrade to a larger unit:
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    ^what fmic?

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    racetech. ill prob upgrade to a precisoin core come spring time
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    I want to come help build this thing


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    I want to watch on the sideline while cooking burgers and drinking beer.

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    Haha everybody welcome joey hit me up. Right be Im just waiting for parts to come in. once the turbo is here ill throw the engine back in and start battering up all the little stuff
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    Are you going to put the lower oil pan/trans bolts back in?

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    I'm down to give u a hand When the time comes as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBait View Post
    Are you going to put the lower oil pan/trans bolts back in?
    what bolts are you talking about? i have all oil pan bolts in
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    Turbo Build Day!!!!! set it up!

    Wow that racetec is gonna need some METH!. mine needs meth, my Temps on a 70' day were thru the roof!

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    Quote Originally Posted by a4spoolin View Post
    what bolts are you talking about? i have all oil pan bolts in
    Since they're a complete pain to get in and out with the trans still in the car, some people leave out the very bottom 4 bolts that connect the oil pan to the transmission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03b6avant View Post
    Turbo Build Day!!!!! set it up!

    Wow that racetec is gonna need some METH!. mine needs meth, my Temps on a 70' day were thru the roof!

    I'm in for Turbo Build Day! I'll make it a special "last trip" in the Talon before she goes up for sale.

    What are the dimensions on the intercooler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZip View Post
    BigZip is watching this thread
    I feel like I should close the blinds now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vweater1369 View Post
    I'm in for Turbo Build Day! I'll make it a special "last trip" in the Talon before she goes up for sale.

    What are the dimensions on the intercooler?
    18x10x2 i think. Small but not too small.

    Garrett 600hp core is whats needed.


    600hp Garrett GT High Density Intercooler with Cast End Tanks - 034 MOTORSPORT

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    Steve ill measure the core when i get home but its not that big. its suppose to only big good for like an elim kit. Neil id love ti get that garret core but there is no way Im fitting that behind my stock bumper. the biggest i can go with out destroying he bumper is 2.75 thick. i need to pick up an s4 bumper
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    BigZip sees your running stock brakes. BigZip thinks that's unsafe. BigZip likes safety

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    VWeater can attest that a4spoolin's stock brakes suck. VWeater thinks you need good pads, fluid, and lines. VWeater suggests BaconBait closes the blinds.

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    Baconbait sees what you did there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vweater1369 View Post
    VWeater can attest that a4spoolin's stock brakes suck. VWeater thinks you need good pads, fluid, and lines. VWeater suggests BaconBait closes the blinds.
    BigZip likes the VWeater agrees that saftey is paramount with a high horsepower vehicle. Saftey first lads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBait View Post


    Baconbait sees what you did there.
    Speaking of saftey BigZip would like to warn BaconBait to be carefull around the cord for the blinds he is hiding behind. Accidents have been known to happen with them and BigZip doesn't want to see BaconBait to injure himself inadvertanly

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    well i too hope you are upgrading your braking power.

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    brakes? isnt all about going fast lol.

    bacon- what tuning and fueling do you run? have you gone through inspection here assuming you've deleted all emissions things
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    Quote Originally Posted by a4spoolin View Post
    brakes? isnt all about going fast lol.
    You can go fast in both directions. You remember what happened going up High Point on the RFR... going under the speed limit b/c your brakes were toasted

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    nah i was going so slow cuz my car was so slow haha. ill hopefully pick up a set of 18s in teh spring or somethin and throw on a bbk
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    Quote Originally Posted by a4spoolin View Post
    nah i was going so slow cuz my car was so slow haha. ill hopefully pick up a set of 18s in teh spring or somethjing then ill tell some jerk off in a boxter his calipers are seized and then take them and throw on this haha
    a4spoolin i hope your just joking in good fun about taking someone's brakes especially a porsches brakes. That is a saftey issue in itself and we know how much i appreciate saftey. This disappoints BigZip. Please dont disappoint BigZip

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    Quote Originally Posted by a4spoolin View Post
    brakes? isnt all about going fast lol.

    bacon- what tuning and fueling do you run? have you gone through inspection here assuming you've deleted all emissions things
    Tuning is being done by Autospeed. 860cc @ 4 bar. The only things I've taken out are the secondary air injection and cat. Last time I passed by clearing the codes while in line at the inspection station. There's a company that makes plug in resistors for removing the valves. Forgot to bookmark it though. I'll post it up when I find it.

    If I can't get it inspected here, I may "move" to PA.

    Brakes are kind of a big deal. You need to be able to stop after repeated runs or a rally around the hills. From what I understand the B5 S4 front brakes are direct bolt-ons for the 01.5+. I picked up a set of B5 S4 rears from Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market for $150 shipped. Got a rebuild kit from ECS for peace of mind.
    Last edited by BaconBait; 12-07-2011 at 11:43 PM.

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    yea that ie stuff is awesome. im pretty sure i dont need any other parts. im hoping to maybe have my turbo this week, then ill be throwing the engine back in the car this weekend. then its onto all the little stuff like fueling and routing everything nicely in the bay. i still gotta order my maestro tuning software.
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