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    Yeah we just have to look beyond what the dyno's spit out for peak numbers for stock or mods. The important thing to look at is just the gains. There are always going to be dyno's that read higher then they should. So if a car reads out 322 whp on a fully stock B8 S4 then all its saying is that dyno has a very low roller loss. This is exactly why running a car that is 100% stock on a dyno before running it with mods is important, lets you know where the starting point is for the mod changes and how the dyno is going to read that car. If that person just put the car on the dyno with a tune he would think the tune had a much larger gain then it really had. Now think how the people will feel if they put their modded cars on a Heart Breaker dyno. lol

    I think for Eurocode the dyno pulls of the stock car with stock headers vs dyno pull of Long headers is the most important since they show the true gains of that product. All the rest just show what the APR tunes can do with the long headers.


    Now what I would love to see is 2 cars running side by side at the track, tuned with stock headers vs tuned with long headers.

    I actually tired to get a B7 RS4 out to the track to run against, but he couldn't go because of the world series. I can ask again but I dont think he will drive 3.5 hrs to run at a different track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike@Ringer-Racing.com View Post
    I actually tired to get a B7 RS4 out to the track to run against, but he couldn't go because of the world series. I can ask again but I dont think he will drive 3.5 hrs to run at a different track.
    to be honest (and no offense to our B7 RS4 brethren) I don't think it will do much more than to rile up a bunch of RS4 owners who think you're going baby seal clubbing.

    We ran a B7 S4 with piggies/catback/tune/LWCP/LW front rotors against a stock RS4 and each of 4 races was within a half car, some for the S4, some for the RS4. A 100 tuned MT6 B8 with full exhaust is going to run about 8 car lengths better.

    With that being said, I'd like to see a good run for a B7 RS4. I don't think I've even heard of anyone running in the 12s when running with just boltons etc.

    Dan @ JHM will endeavour to raise the bar shortly. He was saying he'll be tuned + exhaust etc. soon.

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    Well the guy I know with the B7 RS4 has done plenty of 1/8th mile runs. Just hasn't been to the 1/4 mile track yet, well not that I know of. I will ask him what his best times are for 1/8th and if he has been to the 1/4 track yet.

    Quick search shows him running mid 8's in the 1/8t. That comes out to right around 13.0. Wouldn't be much of a race then. Thats what the B8 A4 2.0t should run with me driving, well hoping to hit high 12's with that car. Wouldn't even be a close race against the B6 A4 1.8t with Elim kit that I ran 12.6 with.


    No, baby seal clubbing would be asking any S4/RS4 to race against my little 830hp A4 1.8t. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike@Ringer-Racing.com View Post
    Now what I would love to see is 2 cars running side by side at the track, tuned with stock headers vs tuned with long headers.
    If I was out your way or you were near me I would glady oblige.... I bet it would be a pretty good race....

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    Against the Eurocode S4 or my A4?

    Against my A4 it would be a good race up to the 60 ft
    I run high 6's at 110 in the 1/8th and that was back when it was only making 570whp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike@Ringer-Racing.com View Post

    Quick search shows him running mid 8's in the 1/8t. That comes out to right around 13.0. Wouldn't be much of a race then. Thats what the B8 A4 2.0t should run with me driving, well hoping to hit high 12's with that car. Wouldn't even be a close race against the B6 A4 1.8t with Elim kit that I ran 12.6 with.
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    Mike, can you elaborate on your current B8 A4 2.0T tuning package that you expect to run ~13s? K04 or larger? Future plans?

    BTW...I'm aware of someone that did several pulls of a B8 A4 APR K04 (93oct) vs a "close to stock" B8 S4 and they were door to door up until ~180km when the S4 slowly started to creep ahead.
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    Doesn't belong to me. It belongs to Eurocode and is the daily driver of someone there that also has a B6 A4 1.8t elim that I have ran 12.8's with. Not sure what has been done to it, but I know it is running a 100 octane race tune. Not sure if they have put it on the dyno yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike@Ringer-Racing.com View Post
    Against the Eurocode S4 or my A4?

    Against my A4 it would be a good race up to the 60 ft
    I run high 6's at 110 in the 1/8th and that was back when it was only making 570whp.
    Come on man.... The S4 you will be running(Eurocodes).... Your A4 would destroy my Mustang which is my drag car.... Would have been a decent race at the 570 mark, my Mustang that is(based on your stated 1/8 times)

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    I know that because your S4 is still in the 12's. Nice to hear you have another car for drag racing. I was so tempted to sign up for Pinks All Out at Firebird. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike@Ringer-Racing.com View Post
    I was so tempted to sign up for Pinks All Out at Firebird. lol
    That would have been great.
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