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    link to a link? Oh NWS4guy...tsk tsk.

    Quote Originally Posted by WAZZU STU View Post
    YES I AM YELLING!!!!!!

    Just thought I would share some info. Not to sound like a D!CK, say what you will but i'm happy as hell my results. Just waiting for someone to leave in my dust.

    Back Ground info:

    Run #1 and #3 were in 4th gear
    Run #1 is STOCK and Run #3 is Stasis Exhaust and ECU upgrade
    Run #1 : 54 F, 29.78 in-Hg, Humidity 53%, and SAE 0.96 on 2/6/2010
    Run# 3 : 61 F, 29.69 in-Hg, Humidity 55%, and SAE 0.98 on 10/23/2010
    Run #1: AWHP = 287.12, AWTQ = 290.42
    Run #3: AWHP = 327.38, AWTQ = 311.11
    Delta AWHP = 40.3, AWTQ = 20.7


    Run #2 and #5 were in 3rd gear
    Run #2 is STOCK and Run #5 is Stasis Exhaust and ECU upgrade
    Run #2 : 54 F, 29.78 in-Hg, Humidity 53%, and SAE 0.96 on 2/6/2010
    Run# 5 : 61 F, 29.69 in-Hg, Humidity 55%, and SAE 0.98 on 10/23/2010
    Run #2: AWHP = 306.60, AWTQ = 295.76
    Run #5: AWHP = 353.13, AWTQ = 312.07
    Delta AWHP = 46.5, AWTQ = 16.3

    Dyno is a Dynojet Model 424xLC2
    This was done at Carburetor Connection in Kirkland, WA
    Thanks Guys!!!

    Disclaimer: I boned it by not putting my car in Dynamic mode, not sure how much of a difference that would make, but please chime in about it. They said the would work with me if i find out it does.

    NOW FOR THE GRAPHS!!!!

    Last edited by sakimano; 11-04-2010 at 09:59 AM.

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    So, tune + exhaust on a normal dyno = 327 whp. I wonder if anyone predicted that or told APR that this would happen when people don't dyno at APR or AWE?

    Quote Originally Posted by sakimano View Post
    My prediction for good times was 12.6@113

    I posted that on Audiworld and got attacked as a hater

    My rationale was simple...I compared to the best all motor B6/7 S4 time

    12.7@112mph by JayBQuick

    JayBQuick vs. APR B8
    320 whp vs. 335 whp
    310 wtq vs. 310wtq
    3850lb car vs. 3950lb car
    good V8 curve vs. awesome SC curve
    Audi torque sensing AWD 60:40 rear biased vs. Audi torque sensing AWD 60:40 rear biased
    not good gearing vs. ??? (depends MT6 vs. DSG)
    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    335 whp and 310 wtq for a B8 S4 with APR 93, Exhaust and Intake? Maybe I read that wrong but that's a fairly low estimate. With those mods you could see up to 380 awhp and 355 awtq. At least, that's close to what I've seen. :-)
    Quote Originally Posted by sakimano View Post
    sorry Arin...I mean on a normal dyno, not your 11% higher reading than normal dyno. The APR dyno is kinda useless for comparing to other cars that dyno'd elsewhere. Avg. B8 S4 uncorrected dyno #s stock are around 285whp (275 - 295) from guys who are fully independant and have no horses in the race. You guys dyno'd around 315whp...i.e. 11% higher than the median.

    Claiming 380 WHP with a tune and catback without the disclaimer that it's on APR's dyno, and is corrected might be misunderstood by 99% of us who are used to regular dynos. i.e. NWS4 guy dyno'd 275. Lou dyno'd 292. There are a few others, all in the 285 range. This is what happened when you guys launched "322 WHP STOCK!" all over the internet...which led to everyone applying 25% drivetrain loss and birthing the myth that the B8 is a 420hp supercar sleeper, underrated by 90hp. As we've found over the past with independant dynos that's just not the case. Again, this is not to say APR misled folks...rather it would be a bit more clear if everyone had a better understanding of just how you achieved those numbers.

    Anyway, if you want to use your 380 WHP number using corrected #s achieved on APR's dyno, inflate the 034 motorsports land and sea dyno numbers jay ran by 11%. Now you're at : 355whp/344wtq vs. 380whp/355wtq. Correct jay's numbers...he's pushing closer to 365whp/355wtq vs. 380 whp/355wtq. OK?

    Now where are those god damn timeslips!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Some guy posted at 730 that he had already run. That was 3 hrs. ago and still no numbers.


    So...NWS4guy, riegerman, Lou et al...do you guys now see what the fuck I was talking about last year with the APR dyno stuff? And do you now think maybe I don't hate the B8...I just hate confusing information muddying people's thoughts?

    I hope so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakimano View Post
    link to a link? Oh NWS4guy...tsk tsk.
    If you mean a link to a post yes, there is no link to a link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakimano View Post

    So...NWS4guy, riegerman, Lou et al...do you guys now see what the fuck I was talking about last year with the APR dyno stuff? And do you now think maybe I don't hate the B8...I just hate confusing information muddying people's thoughts?

    I hope so.
    Aren't you assuming that the tune APR is throwing down for Stasis is the same as what they sell? I don't know if it's different or not, but neither do you. It stands to reason that they have adjusted it since the costs are identical, and APR need some edge (like more power) over what Stasis offers (the warranty coverage) Iwould think.

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    that's pretty weaksauce
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    I'm so over dynos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voltrons_head View Post
    I'm so over dynos.
    THANK YOU!!!!!
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