the UPS man rocks

**richib86** · 12-06-2010 05:19 PM

**DuncanC** · 12-06-2010 05:22 PM

Very nice!

**mbgt72** · 12-06-2010 05:31 PM

Who makes those? I'm surprised their not equal length or designed to throw some more torque down low to help pep the V6 up. Anyhow, I'll really be looking forward to hearing a full write-up about these. Any timeline on when these will be going on?

**richib86** · 12-06-2010 05:55 PM

if u read everything eurocode published so far about them, theyre as close to equal length that space would allow. the goal is to have them on by the end of the week and then off to a dyno on saturday

**beemercer** · 12-06-2010 06:03 PM

doz look funne

**DuncanC** · 12-06-2010 06:03 PM

I'm not sure equal length is even that big of a deal. Its a V6 with a roots blower, not a cross-plane NA V8... The blower makes boost the whole RPM range so there is always a good pressure differential to drive cylinder filling so the little bit of negative pressure that scavenging could effect is pretty insignificant. They look like they should flow a lot better on the top end but I'm interested to see how big of a difference it makes with the blower on there. I could see the biggest advantages being a healthier motor since less heat hangs around, a way better sound, and better max hp potential down the road if you upgraded the blower.

**beemercer** · 12-06-2010 06:11 PM

Well in reality a flat plane 90* V8 and inline 4 are most sensitive to equal length. A crufix 90* V8 is mildly so, split crankpin V6 even less so. Not sure about common and split crank pin V10's, V12's and straight 6's.. I don't have time to do the math right now. Also unsure of 60* motors and boxster setups. Oh and W motors.

My biggest concern would be the collector. Richi, if you can source a boroscope could you get a snapshot of the collector area?

**richib86** · 12-06-2010 06:49 PM

whats the concern with the collector brian?

**beemercer** · 12-06-2010 06:53 PM

^A proper merge collector is worth a lot of power. Should have a long internal pyramid where the pipes meet. They look like handbuilt collectors, so it'd be nice to check if they have a good merge.

**voltrons_head** · 12-06-2010 07:25 PM

Can't wait to see the results. What are your expectations here? You going back to AWE for the dyno or do you have a baseline from somewhere else? How many billable hours would this install be?

I've been worried about going any farther with my car as I put about 18-20K a year on it and would like to get it to 80K before I dump it. Thoughts?

**beemercer** · 12-06-2010 09:10 PM

^Fuck it, get the parts that will make you enjoy it. Maybe with headers the 3.0 will finally start to sound a bit more meaty...

**sakimano** · 12-06-2010 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by voltrons_head

Can't wait to see the results. What are your expectations here? You going back to AWE for the dyno or do you have a baseline from somewhere else? How many billable hours would this install be?

I've been worried about going any farther with my car as I put about 18-20K a year on it and would like to get it to 80K before I dump it. Thoughts?

if I had a B8 S4, I'd get tune, exhaust, some kind of dowpipe mod (if possible) and LW wheels

oh and ditch that fucking plastic gauge surround

after that, it's a 340-350 whp mid 12 second car on pump gas...and that's pretty awesome for an AWD 4000lb daily driver.

**primetime** · 12-07-2010 08:51 AM

Congrats again! If you could be so kind to get some good pics during the install I would appreciate it... Also, some pics of the stock equipment would be appreicated as well... Really looking forward to the results.... Man I hate winter!

**richib86** · 12-08-2010 11:26 AM

ok so small update, the header install will start this monday. thats actually better for me, i have a dyno day this weekend with a few RS4 guys at ICS in CT, so ill have a good unbiased baseline and then go back the following weekend for the updated results. ill also chime in a little later this week on the cat pipe options for these headers for all you environmentally conscious folks out there

lol

**Charlescrs6** · 12-08-2010 11:49 AM

Be careful at ICS...

**richib86** · 12-08-2010 11:58 AM

go on... i used to go there back in the day but its been a few years

**voltrons_head** · 12-08-2010 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Charlescrs6

Be careful at ICS...

Yeah, what's that all about?

**Charlescrs6** · 12-08-2010 12:56 PM

Well, they failed on a B6 S4 engine rebuild for a friend. He brought it in there, they rebuilt everything and the motor blew again after ~1K miles. Every time I've gone in there they've treated me like shit because I didn't have an STI or EVO. Al questioned me heavily about why I needed an APR flash for my car asking if I was going to be speeding and going pass the speed limiter. Not a great way to get business... Oh and they quoted me 550 bucks to install my magnaflow 14851 mufflers on my old 3.0. I just really don't like the environment they have going on over there, or the people that work there.

**richib86** · 12-08-2010 01:04 PM

i know what you mean about the STI EVO thing... i guess thats never changed lol

**Charlescrs6** · 12-08-2010 01:16 PM

Haha, I'm sure he treats people with nicer cars better for the $, but I found it pretty disrespectful and a terrible way to run a business.

**richib86** · 12-08-2010 01:19 PM

no... he doesnt lol

**beemercer** · 12-08-2010 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by richib86

all you environmentally conscious folks out there

lol

Can we just put some out on an iceberg with all their damn precious polar bears already?

**richib86** · 12-08-2010 02:02 PM

sure, then we can rev the hell out of our engines so we can melt that iceberg a little quicker

**richib86** · 01-11-2011 01:43 PM

for those that protest the zoo. the motor is out, pics and video coming soon

**primetime** · 01-11-2011 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by richib86

for those that protest the zoo. the motor is out, pics and video coming soon

Nice! Saw Eurocodes posts on AZ.... Looking forward to this.... I assume initially you will be catless or do you have their "new" downpipes with cats? How will the 02's hookup? Thanks man!

**Joey** · 01-11-2011 02:36 PM

Looking forward to this! Hurry up and post pictures

**richib86** · 01-11-2011 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by primetime

Nice! Saw Eurocodes posts on AZ.... Looking forward to this.... I assume initially you will be catless or do you have their "new" downpipes with cats? How will the 02's hookup? Thanks man!

i will be running catless for now. they sent me bungs for the sensors that ill mount in the fast intention "downpipe" but seeing as how no cats WILL throw a code spacer or not, i might not even mount them and zip tie the secondaries off to the side till either apr makes this adjustment or i get the cats

**rcsummers** · 01-11-2011 04:19 PM

The UPS man is like Santa claus but he comes more often and gives us (sometimes) better gifts that we really want.

**richib86** · 01-11-2011 04:35 PM

bluuuuuuurry cam

**Joey** · 01-11-2011 04:58 PM

Nice Richi. Get some more detailed pics of the motor and the current setup

**mbgt72** · 01-11-2011 05:30 PM

Nice, can't wait to see the improvements. Second the better and more pictures though!

**voltrons_head** · 01-11-2011 09:47 PM

So the deal here is that Eurocode hated the way the car sounded so they chose to add hfc as part of the equation? I thought you couldn't run hfc's with this setup as the Eurocode headers replaced both pieces.

Just so I'm clear, they are reworking the design to include a cat here?

**beemercer** · 01-12-2011 02:06 AM

^To my understanding Eurocode built a catted downpipe that would install between the catback and the headers (not in the headers).

So stock setup you have:
Section 1: Cast exhaust manifolds w/ Primary O2
Section 2: Cat pipe w/ cat/resonator
Section 3: Downpipe
Section 4: Catback

A 034/APR setup would be:
Section 1: Cast exhaust manifolds w/ Primary O2
Section 2: 034 Test pipe w/ no cat/HFC
Section 3: Downpipes
Section 4: Catback

A full Eurocode setup would be:
Section 1 + Section 2: Tubular Eurocode headers w/ Primary O2 after collector
Section 3: Eurocode Catted/Resonated Downpipes
Section 4: Catback

**richib86** · 01-12-2011 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by beemercer

^To my understanding Eurocode built a catted downpipe that would install between the catback and the headers (not in the headers).

So stock setup you have:
Section 1: Cast exhaust manifolds w/ Primary O2
Section 2: Cat pipe w/ cat/resonator
Section 3: Downpipe
Section 4: Catback

A 034/APR setup would be:
Section 1: Cast exhaust manifolds w/ Primary O2
Section 2: 034 Test pipe w/ no cat/HFC
Section 3: Downpipes
Section 4: Catback

A full Eurocode setup would be:
Section 1 + Section 2: Tubular Eurocode headers w/ Primary O2 after collector
Section 3: Eurocode Catted/Resonated Downpipes
Section 4: Catback

exactly

**voltrons_head** · 01-12-2011 08:46 AM

Gotcha. Thanks guys.

**richib86** · 01-12-2011 04:40 PM

there will be a nice install thread with lots of pics but for now here u go

**richib86** · 01-13-2011 07:49 PM

well i know you've all been waiting for sound so here's little tid bit with MUCH more to come in a proper install thread

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_O4guDaEpo[/ame]

**Joey** · 01-13-2011 07:51 PM

....nice

lol. sounds awesome man. Cant wait to hear it in person

**voltrons_head** · 01-13-2011 08:05 PM

Just rev the shit out of it

Haha. Wicked!

**jdmnomore** · 01-13-2011 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by richib86

well i know you've all been waiting for sound so here's little tid bit with MUCH more to come in a proper install thread

nice lol.

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